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Bob Duff
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.10.2014

Aug 8 @ 10:17 AM ET
Bob Duff: Salary cap trap dead ahead The Detroit Red Wings will be hard-pressed to fit 23 players under the $75 million salary cap this season.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 8 @ 10:32 AM ET

Right now every team has reached the Salary Cap Floor but there are a bunch of teams with lots of cap space. Deals can always be made and Detroit has a lot of picks (and assumedly some prospects) available to grease the tracks.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 8 @ 10:33 AM ET
Bob, go away.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Aug 8 @ 10:33 AM ET
New blogger, please.
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Aug 8 @ 10:35 AM ET
I know Ansar reported the $77.5 million figure on MLive, but looking at the actual numbers for the players projected to be on the roster it seems like the real number is just north of $78 million. My best guess is that Sproul wasn't being counted, since he's the only player with the right-sized cap hit to make the difference, he's the most likely of the currently injured to start the year on LTIR, and the Wings have 8 defenders under contract anyway (even if you count Witkowski as a forward).

If the $77.5m number came directly from Holland and Ansar is simply reporting what he heard rather than independently confirming it (likely), it could also be an inadvertent indication that the Wings have already more or less decided to waive Sproul to resolve the roster crunch if all of their other defenders are healthy.
DonzoBean
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 8 @ 11:43 AM ET
I feel bad for Wings fans, they've got a long road ahead. Years of bad contracts and they are going to need to stockpile a lot more picks and prospects who will take time to develop. Hard for me to see them making the playoffs anytime soon.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Aug 8 @ 2:06 PM ET
I feel bad for Wings fans, they've got a long road ahead. Years of bad contracts and they are going to need to stockpile a lot more picks and prospects who will take time to develop. Hard for me to see them making the playoffs anytime soon.
- DonzoBean

It's for the best. Years of first round exits and this poop show needed to be grounded for some higher draft picks.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 8 @ 2:29 PM ET
#FireDuff

#HireCordell
Mozgoid34
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 06.21.2017

Aug 8 @ 3:21 PM ET
New blogger please! New GM would help as well, but we need to start somewhere...
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Aug 8 @ 9:41 PM ET
#FireDuff

#HireCordell

- Feds91Stammer



Gertner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.04.2017

Aug 9 @ 10:04 AM ET
Duff finally took his lips off Holland's butt and wrote something somewhat negative.
Vladdie_Kon1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Aug 11 @ 8:52 AM ET
I know Ansar reported the $77.5 million figure on MLive, but looking at the actual numbers for the players projected to be on the roster it seems like the real number is just north of $78 million. My best guess is that Sproul wasn't being counted, since he's the only player with the right-sized cap hit to make the difference, he's the most likely of the currently injured to start the year on LTIR, and the Wings have 8 defenders under contract anyway (even if you count Witkowski as a forward).

If the $77.5m number came directly from Holland and Ansar is simply reporting what he heard rather than independently confirming it (likely), it could also be an inadvertent indication that the Wings have already more or less decided to waive Sproul to resolve the roster crunch if all of their other defenders are healthy.

- Sven22


You can be sure Holland will waive prospects over any of his overpaid, useless veterans to get out of his salary cap mess. He will always favor the vets over the youngsters... it's the Holland way and he thinks it will help him make the playoffs in his new Arena (which won't happen). So we'll probably lose at least one more prospect due to waivers. He's not going to put any of his recent veteran acquisitions on waivers. We've all seen this before.

This team is a complete trainwreck due to Holland's mismanagement. Highest payroll in the league and I just heard this team leads the NHL with 10 players with NTC (no trade clauses) in their contracts ! Good grief.
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Aug 11 @ 1:24 PM ET
You can be sure Holland will waive prospects over any of his overpaid, useless veterans to get out of his salary cap mess. He will always favor the vets over the youngsters... it's the Holland way and he thinks it will help him make the playoffs in his new Arena (which won't happen). So we'll probably lose at least one more prospect due to waivers. He's not going to put any of his recent veteran acquisitions on waivers. We've all seen this before.

This team is a complete trainwreck due to Holland's mismanagement. Highest payroll in the league and I just heard this team leads the NHL with 10 players with NTC (no trade clauses) in their contracts ! Good grief.

- Vladdie_Kon1


I was just spitballing with the numbers the other day, and I don't think it'd actually be that hard to get the team under the cap (minus Franzen), as long as AA comes in under $2.5 million. To do it, the team would have to clear either one or two roster spots and about $3 million in salary, give our take maybe $500k depending on what AA signs for and whether they go with 22 or 23 players on the roster.

If I'm the GM? Trading Sheahan exclusively for futures (whatever you can get) and demoting Ericsson would save $3.1 million. That's not especially good asset management in Sheahan's case, but when you're in this kind of cap crunch you usually have to take the best of bad options. Even with his poor season last year, I think there'd still be teams out there willing to take a 1-year flier on his since the cost would be low and there's basically no risk (he's even still an RFA after the season).

After that you sign AA (probably around $2 million on a bridge deal) and promote any two (or if you have the money, three) of Svechnikov, Street, Tangradi, Lorito, Bertuzzi, Frk. Bam, you're back within one Johan Franzen of the cap ceiling and don't have to play LTIR roulette all season long, hoping you don't go bust at the worst possible time. Team would still suck, but there's nothing much you can do about that anyway.